Libertarian Candidates Fighting to Unseat Rubio Exchange Harsh Words

Augustus Sol Invictus and Paul Stanton are two Libertarian Party candidates vying for the party’s nomination and the distinct honor of going up against Marco Rubio in the general election in November, in an attempt to unseat him from the US Senate. Both men have been highly critical of each other’s campaigns, leading to the release of the following publications by each of the candidates.

Augustus Invictus released the following letter just a short while ago. It was titled, “Official Response to Paul Stanton.” The sections highlighted in orange are parts of Stanton’s original article which Invictus was responding to.

Mr. Stanton,

Destiny is a thing known only to those with spines, limbs, and eyes. Of course it could never be understood by a jellyfish.

I was born for a Great War. This I have known since boyhood, my vision extending far beyond my own trifling role. You, on the other hand, are so blind you cannot see that the conflict of which I speak is now upon us.

In your press release of 12 July 2016, you peppered factual assertions with total distortions and even outright lies. Since you seem genuinely convinced of your own claims, I will help you to sort them out:

“Throughout the campaign of Augustus Sol Invictus, and even prior to, Invictus has made claims of being born for a great war. Invictus believes a violent civil war is not only imminent but needed, stating to Fox 13’s Craig Patrick in a recent interview, “The only thing you can do to change government is to arm yourselves and be prepared for war.” When asked to clarify if by total insurrection Invictus is speaking of violent insurrection, he replied, ‘I am.'” 

Facts only.

“Augustus Sol Invictus, whose positions on civil war were previously condemned by the Libertarian Party of Florida, does not represent the majority of the Libertarians who believe in achieving political and social change through peaceful means.” 

Not so true. The Libertarian Party of Florida voted to state “just the facts,” and a rogue member of the Executive Committee issued a press release containing nothing of the sort. I noted this in my open letter of 13 May 2016 to the Executive Committee of the LPF, and I refuted all of the claims there. [https://www.facebook.com/notes/augu…] I know you read that letter, because that is where I cited the interview with Craig Patrick. Your intellectual dishonesty knows no bounds.

“In addition to calling for a violent insurrection against the state, Invictus and his supporters have been very hostile toward detractors, threatening them with ‘helicopter rides’ (a reference to Chilean dictator Pinochet’s murder of political dissidents after the coup of 1973 in what is referred to as the ‘Caravan of Death).”

Here is an absolute falsehood. I have never in my life threatened anyone with a “helicopter ride.” I have, in fact, repeatedly stated that I do not endorse the idea, and I challenge you to find a citation for this slander.

“Invictus also recently advised in an interview with supporter Max Dickstein, ‘In the event of a revolution, the media outlets should be the first thing to burn to the ground because they’re the ones who spread the disinformation and they’re the ones who will turn the public against you. Maybe think about that when the media comes out with stories about that person, calling them a neo-nazi [sic], devil worshiper, whatever else comes out.'” 

One-hundred percent true – and you have unwittingly proved me right on this.

“The violence we witnessed in Dallas last week with the murder of multiple police officers is exactly the type of ‘insurrection’ Augustus Sol Invictus is calling for. Invictus’ calls for such violence are irresponsible and damaging not only to the Libertarian Party of Florida but the entire liberty movement.”

For you, a supporter of the Black Lives Matter movement, to insinuate that I am a white supremacist, is absurd enough. But to insinuate that I am a white supremacist who simultaneously supports the BLM movement when the people you support start shooting police officers is the height of stupidity – and hypocrisy.

I have stated repeatedly who my enemies are: the politicians & bureaucrats, the bankers & taxmen, the leftist propagandists, the mainstream media. [cf. https://youtu.be/52RCjqPvIqE] I have even addressed soldiers and law enforcement officers directly, asking them to fight for their country and not for their government. [https://youtu.be/52RCjqPvIqE] I do not get along with law enforcement when they turn their sights on me; but I am recruiting those who love their country with greater success than you could know.

“It appears Augustus Sol Invictus hopes a revolution will produce a society in which we will be collectivized by groups rather than individuals, as was formulated during an interview with Radio 3Fourteen on Red Ice Radio. During that interview, Invictus agreed that separating the country by religion, race, and sexual orientation would be ideal. This collectivist mindset is completely counter to Libertarian philosophy which seeks to strengthen the rights of individuals to associate and disassociate as they please, not forcibly collectivize individuals into groups.” 

Here is a picture of me with my kids.

Their Puerto Rican mother is a Christian, by the way, and their uncle (my brother) is homosexual. If you are going to try to slander me with this sort of nonsense, remember that Adrian Wyllie already tried that. Maybe learn from his mistakes. 

I am not even going to bother pointing out what was actually said in the interview with Red Ice Radio; those who take the time to listen will know you are a liar all on their own. I will, however, state that people have the right to self-determination without the Federal Government imposing its will on them. If whites want white-only neighborhoods, that is their God-given right, just as it is the right of blacks to want black-only neighborhoods, Texans to want their own country, Christians to want their own festivals. Note that the Invictus family would be welcome in none of these places if they chose to exclude us, which is their right.

Had you any understanding of politics whatsoever, you would not so foolishly conflate the self-determination of peoples with collectivism whilst simultaneously arguing for greater expansion of the globalist program of the Federal Government. God forbid I am ever actually able to point out your boundless ignorance of politics in a public debate.

“Paul Stanton acknowledges the need for a peaceful revolution of thought and action. Calls for violence by Augustus Sol Invictus should be harshly rejected as not representative of the Libertarian party or libertarian movement.” 

You said earlier in your press release that you “[stand] firmly as the candidate calling for a peaceful and social revolution, denouncing all forms of violence unless in direct defense of one’s self or others.” This does not make you a man of high moral standing: it makes you a weak-willed fool. The Federal Government has been waging war on its citizens for decades, since before you and I were even born. A “peaceful revolution of thought and action” is a slave’s way of saying, “Let’s ask the Master whether we can have a blanket for the winter.”

Here is the difference between me and you, Paul: I know full well what I am. You and your campaign team are correct in pushing the narrative that makes me appear severe, brutal, uncompromising. But I never made any bones about that. I am not presenting myself as a lenient bureaucrat of half-measures.

You, on the other hand, present yourself as a man of peace, when you are merely a coward. These hit-and-run internet slanders are a thing for high school girls, not for a man running for one of the most powerful political positions in the world. If you had the least shred of dignity you would summon the courage to face me in a debate and make these accusations to my face.

You present yourself as a man of principle, even after whoring yourself out to every presidential candidate at the National Convention for endorsements. I only ever supported one candidate, Austin Petersen, and I never once had the gall to ask him for an endorsement. I respect him too much for that.

You present yourself as a courageous combat veteran, resting on your resume while selling slavery to the System. Your “peaceful revolution” is at best a release valve to keep our fellow citizens from doing anything real; at worst it is a deliberate lie by a boy who wants his countrymen to do as little as possible in the face of grave tyranny for fear of what comes.

You present yourself as a man. No man I know takes cheap shots on the internet and avoids his opposition in real life. I have presented my positions and made constructive efforts. Your entire campaign, on the other hand, is a mere negation of the more radical points of mine. You present nothing constructive, which is why you need to rely on passive-aggressive character assassination to win this primary.

If ever there were a time I might have had respect for you, it is far gone after yesterday’s press release. You are a spineless fool, and a wolf esteems not the censure of a jellyfish. When you are ready to become a man and face your opponent, making these accusations to my face, you will have gained at least some semblance of respect in the eyes of the public. In my eyes, never. 

Libertas et Imperium,

Augustus Sol Invictus 
Here is Stanton’s letter titled “Libertarian Candidate Condemns Calls for Violence and Civil War”, which Invictus was responding to.

 

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE JULY 12, 2016

 

Contact:
Paul Stanton
(321) 373-3489

Libertarian candidate for U.S. Senate Paul Stanton condemns Augustus Sol Invictus’ repeated calls for violence and civil war. Throughout the campaign of Augustus Sol Invictus, and even prior to, Invictus has made claims of being born for a great war[1]. Invictus believes a violent civil war is not only imminent but needed, stating to Fox 13’s Craig Patrick in a recent interview[2], “The only thing you can do to change government is to arm yourselves and be prepared for war.” When asked to clarify if by total insurrection Invictus is speaking of violent insurrection, he replied, “I am.”

Augustus Sol Invictus, whose positions on civil war were previously condemned by the Libertarian Party of Florida, does not represent the majority of the Libertarians who believe in achieving political and social change through peaceful means. Paul Stanton stands firmly as the candidate calling for a peaceful and social revolution, denouncing all forms of violence unless in direct defense of one’s self or others. Historically, violent revolution results in massive casualties and tyranny. As Libertarian philosopher David Friedman has pointed out[3], “civil disorder leads to more government, not less. It may topple one government, but it creates a situation in which people desire another and stronger. Hitler’s regime followed the chaos of the Weimar years. Russian communism is a second example, a lesson for which the anarchists of Kronstadt paid dear. Napoleon is a third.”

In addition to calling for a violent insurrection against the state, Invictus and his supporters have been very hostile toward detractors, threatening them with “helicopter rides” (a reference to Chilean dictator Pinochet’s murder of political dissidents after the coup of 1973 in what is referred to as the “Caravan of Death”). Invictus also recently advised in an interview with supporter Max Dickstein, “In the event of a revolution, the media outlets should be the first thing to burn to the ground because they’re the ones who spread the disinformation and they’re the ones who will turn the public against you. Maybe think about that when the media comes out with stories about that person, calling them a neo-nazi, devil worshiper, whatever else comes out.[4]”

The violence we witnessed in Dallas last week with the murder of multiple police officers is exactly the type of “insurrection” Augustus Sol Invictus is calling for. Invictus’ calls for such violence are irresponsible and damaging not only to the Libertarian Party of Florida but the entire liberty movement. It appears Augustus Sol Invictus hopes a revolution will produce a society in which we will be collectivized by groups rather than individuals, as was formulated during an interview with Radio 3Fourteen on Red Ice Radio[5]. During that interview, Invictus agreed that separating the country by religion, race, and sexual orientation would be ideal. This collectivist mindset is completely counter to Libertarian philosophy which seeks to strengthen the rights of individuals to associate and disassociate as they please, not forcibly collectivize individuals into groups.

Paul Stanton acknowledges the need for a peaceful revolution of thought and action. Calls for violence by Augustus Sol Invictus should be harshly rejected as not representative of the Libertarian party or libertarian movement. Paul Stanton, an Army combat veteran and Libertarian activist, is the peace candidate in the Florida U.S. Senate race. All Florida Libertarians should be aware of the first-in-the-state Libertarian primary for U.S. Senate on August 30, to send a strong message against violence.

1
Mystal, Ellie. The Kind Of Unhinged Departure Memo That Would Have Been WAY Funnier Before The Marathon Attack. (2013). Retrieved from http://abovethelaw.com/2013/04/the-kind-of-unhinged-departure-memo-that-would-have-been-way-funnier-before-the-marathon-attack/
2 “Augustus Sol Invictus – The Full Interview. (2016). Retrieved from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVHbqozxnEs
3 Friedman, David. The Machinery of Freedom. pp 149-150
4 Mazzarone, Mike. Interview: Augustus Invictus Talks Unseating Rubio; Calls McAfee A Degenerate. (2016). Retrieved from https://beinglibertarian.com/libertarian-candidate-seeking-unseat-rubio-calls-john-mcafee-degenerate/
5 “Augustus Sol Invictus – Libertarian Realism: Folk, Culture & Borders – Radio 3Fourteen” Retrieved from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWHKfaLwFk4

 

Liberty Hangout has invited both Invictus and Stanton to participate in an exclusive debate on the Liberty Hangout Podcast. So far Invictus has accepted our offer, and we are still waiting on a response from Stanton.

Let us know your thoughts on their letters! Which candidate do you think is better suited to face Marco Rubio in the general election?